Hillbilly Pix and Pocky Sticks
A trés casual chat with Primus guitarist Larry (Ler)
Analog interview by T.Crane
© Euphony "Net" Magazine
August 25, 1995
It's 9:00 am Vancouver
time, and I stumble out of my very comfortable bed to slam on some coffee and await the phone
call from Ler of Primus fame. I know 9:00 am is no big deal to a lot of people, but for me it's all I
can do to change coffee filters and pour water...until that first sip of black goo...then whammo!
So during this frenetic
hyper-warp pre-stage of sleep haze and physiological caffeine response, the phone rings and it's
the Ler unit. I guess what I'm really trying to get at is a first class excuse for the telephone
recording equipment not functioning properly. But Ler and I had a pretty cool chat, and I did
manage to write most of it down, so... thar she blows!
Larry Lalonde: Yeah, hello. This is Larry from PRIMUS.
T.Crane: Hey Ler, this is EUPHONY, uh...we're a net magazine.
LL: Yeah, I heard of you guys. A friend of mine back home has you
TC: Cool. Want our URL address?
LL: Yeah, give it to me.
TC: http://euphony.com/euphony. So howz it goin' anyway?
LL: Pretty good. Having fun.
TC: You like these early interviews?
LL: (laughs) No, not really. They just told me to do them early so I could
know... stuff later on.
TC: Aha... They wanted me to talk to you at 8:30 am. I dunno man, my
doesn't even come back from the cleaners until 10.
LL: 8:30? Whoa! That's early.
TC: Where are you calling from anyway?
TC: Wow. I was just in Albequerque.
LL: Oh yeah? Know any cool spots?
TC: Yeah, there's this funky little combination gay bar disco/pizza
store there called One-Eyed Jacks. Oh, and Billy the Kid's grave is near there.
LL: Hey! We drove by there! I was yelling for them to stop the bus, but
was asleep. What's it like?
TC: The coolest, man.
LL: That's the grave they dug up a little while ago to see if he was really
TC: Yeah, well this old guy crawled out of the desert in the 60's claiming to
Billy the Kid. Everyone thought he was nuts, but when he died they had his gun authenticated and
out to be Billy the Kid's gun. So one of the theories is that Garrett shot a friend of Billy's and, for
political reasons, claimed it was Billy he actually gunned down.
LL: Cool. I really wanted to stop.
TC: So Ler... from what I understand, you're a bit of a 'net-head.
LL: (Laughs) Oh yeah, computers. No girlfriend, no wife, just a computer.
TC: Lock you in a room for a month...
LL: Yeah, all the geeks that you used to make fun of as a kid... now you
go to them for your information.
TC: Dad always said that though... One day they will come to you to buy
LL: Exactly, It's pretty incredible. I've been doing alot of graphics. Les, me
friend of ours did all the artwork for the CD.
TC: Any thoughts about doing a Primus CD-ROM?
LL: Actually that's what I'm working on right now. Man, that's a lot of
me tell you.
TC: I dig, I'm doing one of performance poets right now.
LL: Howz it going?
TC: Piles and piles of tape...editing... exciting stuff. The giant
LL: Yeah, I'm really getting into it.
TC: I heard you guys have a web site up?
LL: Not really, we're working on one right now, maybe in a while.
TC: So how far into the tour are you?
LL: Well, Vancouver is our last gig, then we fly home and head over to
few days later.
TC: Europe, that sounds hip. You been there before?
LL: (un-enthusiastic) Yeah.
TC: You don't like it over there?
LL: Well, I guess. The journalists are mean over there. They say things like
you guys think you are so crazy...Well, yeah, we are. Now go away. It's like they feel like we're
over there to take advantage of them or something. It'll be fun though, I guess.
TC: What kind of music you listen to?
LL: Frank Zappa. I really like Zappa.
TC: Right on. Do you dig Beefheart?
LL: I haven't really given him much of a listen. Pretty out stuff.
TC: Yeah, Zappa and him used to go to school together.
LL: (Laughs) That's twisted.
TC: Can you imagine home room?
TC: I listened to your CD, Tales From The Punchbowl. I described it as
Minutemen on nitrous oxide.
LL: (Laughs) Hey! That's good! Actually we're getting together with Mike
TC: The Minutemen, they rocked! Ahh... the days of mispent youth.
LL: Yeah, reminds me of being a young punk-rocker, now we're old punk
TC: Yeah, I frequently catch myself saying things like oh those kids... Hey!
What kind of books do you read?
LL: I don't read too much anymore, I used to read Hunter S. Thompson all
time on tour. It's good road material. Keeps the edge on.
TC: Yeah, Thompson brings out the edge you don't even know you have. I
understand that you guys like Honda 5.5 generators??
LL: Well, Les lives out in the middle of nowhere, and we had all these really
intense storms a while ago, flooding, landslides... And when the power goes out, it's out for days.
So a lot of the
recording was done using generators.
TC: Right, Rancho Relaxo! According to the promo it's a waterslide/spin
LL: I don't know where that came from, how it got into the promo, but no,
isn't a waterslide there... yet. I guess we should put one in now.
TC: Damn. I was gonna befriend you guys, then come visiting. Groove out
slide. Hey! Ler, what was your happiest moment [in life to date]?
LL: Oh, being on David Letterman. It was like meeting god.
TC: Letterman? Did you have a good time?
LL: Well, it was wierd. We were waiting to go on, and everyone was really
Then we got changed into our penguin costumes and the woman who was in charge got pissed off
TC: The penguin outfits you guys are wearing on the CD cover? Man, those
really hip outfits.
LL: Yeah, well we thought so, but she wasn't impressed. Dave was nice
He came out and thanked us for playing and was real friendly.
TC: Have you played on Conan?
LL: No, but he's great. Andy's something else. I saw him in a movie called
Boy. Letterman's in it too, everybody hated it but me. I thought it was great.
TC: Cabin Boy... I'll have to look for that one.
LL: Oh you'll probably hate it as well. It's directed/written by Chris Elliot.
TC: Chris Elliot? He's pretty bent. I'll check it out and let you know. Your
for Wynonna's Big Brown Beaver is getting a fair bit of air time up here. Man... out stuff. What
were the costumes made of?
LL: (Laughs) Oh, latex and nerf material.
TC: I see by your sponsor list that you, Larry Lalonde, are sponsored by
LL: Well everyone had these lists of equipment and things and when it came
me, I was holding a BIC lighter, so they put down BIC Lighters.
TC: Ler, brought to you by the caring people at BIC. I went on a radio
that was sponsored by Pocky Sticks.
LL: What's that?
TC: Oh they're these Japanese wafer sticks dipped in chocolate and stuff.
addictive. So this radio guy had crates of Pocky in the studio... do you get crates of BIC Lighters?
LL: (Laughs) No, I never thought of that. Ler, brought to you by Mercedes.
have to try that.
TC: So Ler, have you guys had much of a chance to check out Vancouver
The rainforests, etc...?
LL: No, everytime we come here it's just to play then leave. I've seen a lot
Vancouver from the brochures in the hotel rooms. I'd like to check it out more if I get the time.
TC: Yeah, the islands are cool. They're full of the offspring of hippie settlers
turned yuppie, but gigging on the islands is a blast. You may get a full house of only three
hundred, but they
are three hundred who are really there.
LL: Three hundred people into it, blows away five thousand lame heads any
Well I got your number, so I'll call next time.
TC: We'll talk more at the gig.
LL: Great. I'd like to check it out.
TC: Where are you off to next?
LL: Phoenix. I tell ya, this is the tour of much heat.
TC: It's been cool up here, almost like autumn.
LL: Man, I am really looking forward to cool. The heat's too much.
TC: Yeah, we get the ozone in the winter up here. Well Ler, that's about it
now, guess I'll let you go. Have a good trip, and see you when you get here.
LL: Thanks, We'll have a beer, or beers, or many beers.
TC: Yes. Beer good.
LL: (Laughs) Yes. Beer very good.
So there you go surf
bunnies, a tasty slice of PRIMUS for your dietary needs. They'll be smoking the seams off the
P.N.E.'s Coliseum Bowl on August 29th along with very special guest Mike Watt. Showtime is
7:30pm and the ticket price includes admission to the fair grounds. (yippee) If you haven't scoped
out their latest CD, then I gotta ask... what's the matter for you? It's a twisted kickin' treat! Go
borrow money from yer mom and dad, work a day at the car wash... something... anything. But
check the thing out!